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	<title>Comments on: The president is correct:  the Cambridge police did act stupidly</title>
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		<title>By: Doug D.</title>
		<link>http://www.millennialstar.org/the-president-is-correct-the-cambridge-police-did-act-stupidly/comment-page-2/#comment-38035</link>
		<dc:creator>Doug D.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Jul 2009 17:20:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This one is all Gate&#039;s fault, and has nothing to do with race.  I&#039;m no fan of police when they abuse their power, and have given one or two a hard time myself.  (Albeit in a very respectful and lawful manner to insure I don&#039;t end up in jail.)

What would you want the police to do if they responded to a breaking and entry call at your home address?  I would expect them to request ID from me.  I would happily provide that ID and thank them for following up on the person&#039;s tip.  Explain I had to force my way in to my own home because I didn&#039;t have my key, and wish them a good afternoon.  At which point the officer would leave.

Had Gates done likewise, this incident would not have made national news.  Gates would not have been arrested, etc.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This one is all Gate&#8217;s fault, and has nothing to do with race.  I&#8217;m no fan of police when they abuse their power, and have given one or two a hard time myself.  (Albeit in a very respectful and lawful manner to insure I don&#8217;t end up in jail.)</p>
<p>What would you want the police to do if they responded to a breaking and entry call at your home address?  I would expect them to request ID from me.  I would happily provide that ID and thank them for following up on the person&#8217;s tip.  Explain I had to force my way in to my own home because I didn&#8217;t have my key, and wish them a good afternoon.  At which point the officer would leave.</p>
<p>Had Gates done likewise, this incident would not have made national news.  Gates would not have been arrested, etc.</p>
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		<title>By: Geoff B.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Geoff B.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Jul 2009 07:07:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hmmm, now we&#039;re discussing academic disciplines on a thread about Gates&#039; arrest?  Guys, please try to keep on-topic.  Thanks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hmmm, now we&#8217;re discussing academic disciplines on a thread about Gates&#8217; arrest?  Guys, please try to keep on-topic.  Thanks.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark D.</title>
		<link>http://www.millennialstar.org/the-president-is-correct-the-cambridge-police-did-act-stupidly/comment-page-2/#comment-38022</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark D.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Jul 2009 06:21:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Radicalism is fine, but as I said radicalism is rarely the high road to respectability.  Secondly, there is no reason why people should be required to fund the promotion of non-empirically establishable doctrines they completely disagree with. Science is respectable largely because its internal methodology and empirical results give weight to its claim to truth.  

Where on the other hand, the humanities these days tends to be taken with the idea that truth is something we make up, and indoctrinate every passing student accordingly.  Such relativism is incompatible with the very idea of the academy.  If some private organization wants to promote their own brand of manufactured ethics or religion, that is fine, but there is no reason why the public should be compelled to do so by force of law.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Radicalism is fine, but as I said radicalism is rarely the high road to respectability.  Secondly, there is no reason why people should be required to fund the promotion of non-empirically establishable doctrines they completely disagree with. Science is respectable largely because its internal methodology and empirical results give weight to its claim to truth.  </p>
<p>Where on the other hand, the humanities these days tends to be taken with the idea that truth is something we make up, and indoctrinate every passing student accordingly.  Such relativism is incompatible with the very idea of the academy.  If some private organization wants to promote their own brand of manufactured ethics or religion, that is fine, but there is no reason why the public should be compelled to do so by force of law.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris H.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chris H.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Jul 2009 20:37:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Janet,

Your first two paragraph are right on. Thank you.

The English major comments were meant to be silly. I am a professor in the humanities and social sciences. Just trying to break the tension on  the thread. I am one of the fevered radicals that Mark speaks of (I am far to the left of Gates).

Mark D.,

I love you (I would say what I really think, but I am pretty sure that Geoff would erase it).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Janet,</p>
<p>Your first two paragraph are right on. Thank you.</p>
<p>The English major comments were meant to be silly. I am a professor in the humanities and social sciences. Just trying to break the tension on  the thread. I am one of the fevered radicals that Mark speaks of (I am far to the left of Gates).</p>
<p>Mark D.,</p>
<p>I love you (I would say what I really think, but I am pretty sure that Geoff would erase it).</p>
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		<title>By: Mark D.</title>
		<link>http://www.millennialstar.org/the-president-is-correct-the-cambridge-police-did-act-stupidly/comment-page-2/#comment-38010</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark D.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Jul 2009 16:15:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The value of the study of English literature and language notwithstanding, contemporary humanities departments are notorious for being hot beds of fevered radicalism.  Sociology nearly as much.  Departments of medicine and engineering are respected in part for not appearing to be dedicated to promoting the proposition that contemporary society is a fraud.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The value of the study of English literature and language notwithstanding, contemporary humanities departments are notorious for being hot beds of fevered radicalism.  Sociology nearly as much.  Departments of medicine and engineering are respected in part for not appearing to be dedicated to promoting the proposition that contemporary society is a fraud.</p>
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		<title>By: Janet</title>
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		<dc:creator>Janet</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Jul 2009 13:04:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t know for sure that Gates was race baiting.  It may appear that way from the officer&#039;s report, but you have to remember that this report was issued by the very officer who is being accused by Gates of committing a racist act. It may have felt to Gates that this officer was being a racist by coming to his house and demanding that he proves that he lives there.

A lot of times people may feel like they have been prejudiced against regardless of whether or not any prejudice has actually occurred.  Until you have lived your life as a member of an oppressed group, then it is difficult to say whether or not you can fully understand what was going through Professor Gates&#039; head.

Also the commentary above about English degrees being useless is rude and unnecessary.  Without majors in English, you would not be able to learn the language and appreciate its complexities.  I don&#039;t go around making snarky remarks about people that have majors/degrees in fields I am not interested in because such comments are entirely useless and are really wrong in most cases.  Every degree contributes something to some field that makes this world a better place.  If he were a sociologist, then that too would be an important field.  We cannot just judge people because they didn&#039;t get a degree in medicine or engineering or any other field that has become venerated in American society.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t know for sure that Gates was race baiting.  It may appear that way from the officer&#8217;s report, but you have to remember that this report was issued by the very officer who is being accused by Gates of committing a racist act. It may have felt to Gates that this officer was being a racist by coming to his house and demanding that he proves that he lives there.</p>
<p>A lot of times people may feel like they have been prejudiced against regardless of whether or not any prejudice has actually occurred.  Until you have lived your life as a member of an oppressed group, then it is difficult to say whether or not you can fully understand what was going through Professor Gates&#8217; head.</p>
<p>Also the commentary above about English degrees being useless is rude and unnecessary.  Without majors in English, you would not be able to learn the language and appreciate its complexities.  I don&#8217;t go around making snarky remarks about people that have majors/degrees in fields I am not interested in because such comments are entirely useless and are really wrong in most cases.  Every degree contributes something to some field that makes this world a better place.  If he were a sociologist, then that too would be an important field.  We cannot just judge people because they didn&#8217;t get a degree in medicine or engineering or any other field that has become venerated in American society.</p>
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		<title>By: HeLi</title>
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		<dc:creator>HeLi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Jul 2009 05:12:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think Pres. Obama&#039;s invitation to meet at the White House was excellent and should have been his first comment. The president claims he wants to bring people together and his first response was very divisive!

Many have wrongly asserted that this wouldn&#039;t have happened to a white man. These people have clearly not watched any episodes of cops. Whenever someone starts screaming at police officers outside their homes, sometimes inside, they are awarded two nickle-plated bracelets. An officers job is already hard enough and they don&#039;t need to take &quot;stupid&quot; comments from anyone. That said, I will agree that the smartest course of action may have been to treat Gates as the member of a &quot;protected class&quot; that he wants to be. In other words treat him better than a similarly situated person who is not part of a &quot;protected class.&quot;

I&#039;ve also read the ridiculous comment that if Gates was white they would not have asked for ID. Clearly, these people have never watched cops or had any interaction with the police.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think Pres. Obama&#8217;s invitation to meet at the White House was excellent and should have been his first comment. The president claims he wants to bring people together and his first response was very divisive!</p>
<p>Many have wrongly asserted that this wouldn&#8217;t have happened to a white man. These people have clearly not watched any episodes of cops. Whenever someone starts screaming at police officers outside their homes, sometimes inside, they are awarded two nickle-plated bracelets. An officers job is already hard enough and they don&#8217;t need to take &#8220;stupid&#8221; comments from anyone. That said, I will agree that the smartest course of action may have been to treat Gates as the member of a &#8220;protected class&#8221; that he wants to be. In other words treat him better than a similarly situated person who is not part of a &#8220;protected class.&#8221;</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve also read the ridiculous comment that if Gates was white they would not have asked for ID. Clearly, these people have never watched cops or had any interaction with the police.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris H.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chris H.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Jul 2009 02:50:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No problem. I can wait.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No problem. I can wait.</p>
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		<title>By: Geoff B.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Geoff B.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Jul 2009 00:40:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Chris H, I am unfortunately very rarely in Utah.  I have many relatives there asking when I will be there so I can get together with them.  I wish I could get there for FAIR conference, but I will be on vacation that week with my family.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Chris H, I am unfortunately very rarely in Utah.  I have many relatives there asking when I will be there so I can get together with them.  I wish I could get there for FAIR conference, but I will be on vacation that week with my family.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris H.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chris H.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Jul 2009 23:27:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In the actually press conference, Obama says that he invited them to have a beer together. Not sure if I can go that far, but I will  let you all choose your own beverage.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In the actually press conference, Obama says that he invited them to have a beer together. Not sure if I can go that far, but I will  let you all choose your own beverage.</p>
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