Comments on: The Book of Mormon made simple and the Hill Cumorah http://www.millennialstar.org/the-book-of-mormon-made-simple-and-the-hill-cumorah/ Thu, 09 Feb 2012 01:51:43 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Ben Pratt http://www.millennialstar.org/the-book-of-mormon-made-simple-and-the-hill-cumorah/comment-page-1/#comment-40637 Ben Pratt Fri, 30 Oct 2009 16:49:55 +0000 http://www.millennialstar.org/?p=3415#comment-40637 Thanks, Geoff. This is an important point. Testimonies cannot be built on legends and rumors. Thanks, Geoff. This is an important point. Testimonies cannot be built on legends and rumors.

]]> By: Rameumptom http://www.millennialstar.org/the-book-of-mormon-made-simple-and-the-hill-cumorah/comment-page-1/#comment-40633 Rameumptom Thu, 29 Oct 2009 16:29:54 +0000 http://www.millennialstar.org/?p=3415#comment-40633 Oh, great. Now Geoff is buttering me up. How am I supposed to be a good anti-Mormon when I'm being treated so well? I suppose I could be re-offended because he, like most Mormons, cannot spell Rameumptom.... Of course, there are some who would tell me to step down from my high pedestal, or rameumptom, and start getting along.... Oh, great. Now Geoff is buttering me up. How am I supposed to be a good anti-Mormon when I’m being treated so well?

I suppose I could be re-offended because he, like most Mormons, cannot spell Rameumptom….

Of course, there are some who would tell me to step down from my high pedestal, or rameumptom, and start getting along….

]]> By: Bookslinger http://www.millennialstar.org/the-book-of-mormon-made-simple-and-the-hill-cumorah/comment-page-1/#comment-40632 Bookslinger Thu, 29 Oct 2009 15:18:27 +0000 http://www.millennialstar.org/?p=3415#comment-40632 Yeah. We don't know exactly who all was in the Americas when Lehi got here. We don't have the Lamanites side of the story. And we don't know what all happened, or who else arrived between 421 AD and 1492. Societal evidence can disappear quite quickly. There's a show that repeats sometimes on The History Channel, that depicts what would likely happen if all mankind disappeared at once. It shows what all would decay and be over-run in 1 year, 5 years, 50 years, 100 years, 500 years, 1000 years, etc. Pretty much everything decays or disappears in 1000 years. So in effect, finding <i>any</i> ancient archealogical evidence is the <i>exception</i>, not the rule. Generally, you have to intentionally preserve and protect things, like the Egyptians with their mummies and pyramids. Won't it be cool in the Millennium when all mysteries (such as these) will be made known? Yeah. We don’t know exactly who all was in the Americas when Lehi got here. We don’t have the Lamanites side of the story. And we don’t know what all happened, or who else arrived between 421 AD and 1492.

Societal evidence can disappear quite quickly. There’s a show that repeats sometimes on The History Channel, that depicts what would likely happen if all mankind disappeared at once. It shows what all would decay and be over-run in 1 year, 5 years, 50 years, 100 years, 500 years, 1000 years, etc.

Pretty much everything decays or disappears in 1000 years. So in effect, finding any ancient archealogical evidence is the exception, not the rule.

Generally, you have to intentionally preserve and protect things, like the Egyptians with their mummies and pyramids.

Won’t it be cool in the Millennium when all mysteries (such as these) will be made known?

]]> By: Geoff B. http://www.millennialstar.org/the-book-of-mormon-made-simple-and-the-hill-cumorah/comment-page-1/#comment-40629 Geoff B. Thu, 29 Oct 2009 13:53:46 +0000 http://www.millennialstar.org/?p=3415#comment-40629 Rameumpton, you are finally living up to your on-line name. :) Rameumpton, you are finally living up to your on-line name. :)

]]> By: Rameumptom http://www.millennialstar.org/the-book-of-mormon-made-simple-and-the-hill-cumorah/comment-page-1/#comment-40627 Rameumptom Thu, 29 Oct 2009 13:41:59 +0000 http://www.millennialstar.org/?p=3415#comment-40627 You mean that the Hill Cumorah wasn't....???? You mean that Moroni didn't....????? Wow, thanks for destroying my faith, Geoff! Now I'm just going to have to join all those anti-Mormons that scoff at blogs like this one. And what's worse, I don't like anti-Mormons! Just thanks, Geoff. Thanks for nothing! ;) You mean that the Hill Cumorah wasn’t….???? You mean that Moroni didn’t….?????

Wow, thanks for destroying my faith, Geoff! Now I’m just going to have to join all those anti-Mormons that scoff at blogs like this one. And what’s worse, I don’t like anti-Mormons!

Just thanks, Geoff. Thanks for nothing!

;)

]]> By: Geoff B. http://www.millennialstar.org/the-book-of-mormon-made-simple-and-the-hill-cumorah/comment-page-1/#comment-40625 Geoff B. Thu, 29 Oct 2009 12:56:41 +0000 http://www.millennialstar.org/?p=3415#comment-40625 My wife pointed out that Moroni 10:2 says the records were "sealed up." In addition, Moroni says he is "speaking out of the dust" (Moroni 10:27), so it is probably reasonable to think that Moroni did bury the plates that became the Book of Mormon someplace. But he does not say specifically that he buried them in the Hill Cumorah, and he does not say where the Hill Cumorah is. So, again, we don't know exactly what happened to the plates before Moroni gave them to Joseph Smith. My wife pointed out that Moroni 10:2 says the records were “sealed up.” In addition, Moroni says he is “speaking out of the dust” (Moroni 10:27), so it is probably reasonable to think that Moroni did bury the plates that became the Book of Mormon someplace. But he does not say specifically that he buried them in the Hill Cumorah, and he does not say where the Hill Cumorah is. So, again, we don’t know exactly what happened to the plates before Moroni gave them to Joseph Smith.

]]> By: Geoff B. http://www.millennialstar.org/the-book-of-mormon-made-simple-and-the-hill-cumorah/comment-page-1/#comment-40615 Geoff B. Thu, 29 Oct 2009 01:20:29 +0000 http://www.millennialstar.org/?p=3415#comment-40615 Mike, I hope I don't go back to getting minuses from you. :) Mike, I hope I don’t go back to getting minuses from you. :)

]]> By: JA Benson http://www.millennialstar.org/the-book-of-mormon-made-simple-and-the-hill-cumorah/comment-page-1/#comment-40613 JA Benson Thu, 29 Oct 2009 00:31:00 +0000 http://www.millennialstar.org/?p=3415#comment-40613 Very well said Geoff. We all need to take heed not to clutter our testimonies with "foolish/false traditions". Very well said Geoff. We all need to take heed not to clutter our testimonies with “foolish/false traditions”.

]]> By: Mike Parker http://www.millennialstar.org/the-book-of-mormon-made-simple-and-the-hill-cumorah/comment-page-1/#comment-40612 Mike Parker Wed, 28 Oct 2009 23:16:53 +0000 http://www.millennialstar.org/?p=3415#comment-40612 +1 +1

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