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		<title>By: JA Benson</title>
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		<dc:creator>JA Benson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Feb 2012 22:07:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you Adam and Gordon for your comforting words. I hope that both Debbie and Cheniece and John are able to find peace in the knowledge their dear babies are with Christ and other loving spirits. I know we will see them again and come to the knowledge they have walked many a footstep with us, in spirit, in this life.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you Adam and Gordon for your comforting words. I hope that both Debbie and Cheniece and John are able to find peace in the knowledge their dear babies are with Christ and other loving spirits. I know we will see them again and come to the knowledge they have walked many a footstep with us, in spirit, in this life.</p>
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		<title>By: Gordon Watts</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gordon Watts</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Feb 2012 16:16:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Cheniece Warren, you will see your child again in the Millennium Reign of The Christ, if you are saved.

So, make sure you don&#039;t give up!

However, you will not &quot;lose your salvation&quot; unless you FORCEFULLY yank free from God&#039;s loving grip of a loving Father:

You are safe in God&#039;s hand -- and in JESUS&#039; hand:

JOHN 10:28-29, Holy Bible, KJV:

28And I give unto them eternal life; and they shall never perish, neither shall any man pluck them out of my hand.
29My Father, which gave them me, is greater than all; and no man is able to pluck them out of my Father&#039;s hand.

See also my research linked above --and double-linked in the &#039;Theology&#039; section of my namesake, personal blogs -- Google me to find them if u like -- or better yet, just scroll above &amp; click &amp; print out to read offline in the comfort of your own home.

Be blessed in Jesus.!

(-:

Gordon Wayne Watts
LAKELAND (between Tampa &amp; Orlando), Fla.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cheniece Warren, you will see your child again in the Millennium Reign of The Christ, if you are saved.</p>
<p>So, make sure you don&#8217;t give up!</p>
<p>However, you will not &#8220;lose your salvation&#8221; unless you FORCEFULLY yank free from God&#8217;s loving grip of a loving Father:</p>
<p>You are safe in God&#8217;s hand &#8212; and in JESUS&#8217; hand:</p>
<p>JOHN 10:28-29, Holy Bible, KJV:</p>
<p>28And I give unto them eternal life; and they shall never perish, neither shall any man pluck them out of my hand.<br />
29My Father, which gave them me, is greater than all; and no man is able to pluck them out of my Father&#8217;s hand.</p>
<p>See also my research linked above &#8211;and double-linked in the &#8216;Theology&#8217; section of my namesake, personal blogs &#8212; Google me to find them if u like &#8212; or better yet, just scroll above &amp; click &amp; print out to read offline in the comfort of your own home.</p>
<p>Be blessed in Jesus.!</p>
<p>(-:</p>
<p>Gordon Wayne Watts<br />
LAKELAND (between Tampa &amp; Orlando), Fla.</p>
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		<title>By: Adam G.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Adam G.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Feb 2012 15:58:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mrs. Warren,
My oldest daughter died in the spring of 2005.  You can read about her here:
http://www.jrganymede.com/2009/05/04/happy-birthday-betsey-pearl/

In the months before she died both I and my wife had intimations that her time was short.  We both got really worried that after she died she&#039;d be scared and lonely.  It really bothered me and I prayed a lot about it.

One night I had a dream.  I saw her coming into heaven with a whole crowd of people waiting for her.  In my dream they were her ancestors and relatives, who loved her, and were waiting to welcome her to heaven.  But in my dream, each one of them looked exactly like Christ.  The knowledge was communicated to my mind that this was a symbol of the great and pure love that each one of them had for her.

The night after she died, my wife and my mother-in-law both dreamed that they saw her playing in a meadow of daisies with the pioneer children who had also died young.

Not one of these little ones is ever lost.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mrs. Warren,<br />
My oldest daughter died in the spring of 2005.  You can read about her here:<br />
<a href="http://www.jrganymede.com/2009/05/04/happy-birthday-betsey-pearl/" rel="nofollow">http://www.jrganymede.com/2009/05/04/happy-birthday-betsey-pearl/</a></p>
<p>In the months before she died both I and my wife had intimations that her time was short.  We both got really worried that after she died she&#8217;d be scared and lonely.  It really bothered me and I prayed a lot about it.</p>
<p>One night I had a dream.  I saw her coming into heaven with a whole crowd of people waiting for her.  In my dream they were her ancestors and relatives, who loved her, and were waiting to welcome her to heaven.  But in my dream, each one of them looked exactly like Christ.  The knowledge was communicated to my mind that this was a symbol of the great and pure love that each one of them had for her.</p>
<p>The night after she died, my wife and my mother-in-law both dreamed that they saw her playing in a meadow of daisies with the pioneer children who had also died young.</p>
<p>Not one of these little ones is ever lost.</p>
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		<title>By: Adam G.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Adam G.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Feb 2012 15:45:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Joseph Smith and  D&amp;C 137:10 are in agreement.

The key is the LDS belief that, almost without exception, children raised in the Millennium will embrace Christ and his gospel.

http://timesandseasons.org/index.php/2005/08/pioneer-children/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Joseph Smith and  <a href="http://scriptures.lds.org/en/dc/137/10#10" title="LDS Scriptures Internet Edition: D&amp;C 137:10">D&amp;C 137:10</a> are in agreement.</p>
<p>The key is the LDS belief that, almost without exception, children raised in the Millennium will embrace Christ and his gospel.</p>
<p><a href="http://timesandseasons.org/index.php/2005/08/pioneer-children/" rel="nofollow">http://timesandseasons.org/index.php/2005/08/pioneer-children/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Cheniece Warren</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cheniece Warren</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Feb 2012 04:35:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I lost my child &quot;GRACE&quot; Dec.27,2010. That was the hardest thing i ever experienced in my 24 years. The pain runs so deep my heart feels so empty. It&#039;s not a day that goes by that i dont think bout her and miss her. I cry so much it feels like ill be crying my whole life. I worry about her all day i just want to know if she&#039;s ok, I pray the same prayer everynite....I ask GOD to please send me a sign or let her visited me in a dream i want to know if she safe and did she make it to Heaven. I think this could be the sign i&#039;ve been asking GOD for! I think you much for this blog i really need this push into my healing! Its time to pick myself up and start to move through my healing!:) I long for the day that i can hold my child in my arms, kiss her cheeks and tell her how much i love her and missed her!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I lost my child &#8220;GRACE&#8221; Dec.27,2010. That was the hardest thing i ever experienced in my 24 years. The pain runs so deep my heart feels so empty. It&#8217;s not a day that goes by that i dont think bout her and miss her. I cry so much it feels like ill be crying my whole life. I worry about her all day i just want to know if she&#8217;s ok, I pray the same prayer everynite&#8230;.I ask GOD to please send me a sign or let her visited me in a dream i want to know if she safe and did she make it to Heaven. I think this could be the sign i&#8217;ve been asking GOD for! I think you much for this blog i really need this push into my healing! Its time to pick myself up and start to move through my healing!:) I long for the day that i can hold my child in my arms, kiss her cheeks and tell her how much i love her and missed her!</p>
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		<title>By: Debbie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Debbie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Jul 2011 15:12:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you for this article.  Two nights ago I miscarried twin boys that would be 14 weeks tomorrow.  I was at the hospital and basically in labor with severe pain and minimal medication.  I was able to see them both briefly and did find out they were both boys.  Ironically one boy name I had chosen was Jake, like your son.  The second boy was briefly moving in the doctor&#039;s hands before subsiding and the cord was cut.  I didn&#039;t see that part but it will be burned in my husband&#039;s mind forever.  Today I am home and recovering.  I still have a lot of questions and grief but was looking for an LDS perspective to help me and was uplifted by all the comments here.  In my heart I do believe I will have a chance to see and raise these boys after this life.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you for this article.  Two nights ago I miscarried twin boys that would be 14 weeks tomorrow.  I was at the hospital and basically in labor with severe pain and minimal medication.  I was able to see them both briefly and did find out they were both boys.  Ironically one boy name I had chosen was Jake, like your son.  The second boy was briefly moving in the doctor&#8217;s hands before subsiding and the cord was cut.  I didn&#8217;t see that part but it will be burned in my husband&#8217;s mind forever.  Today I am home and recovering.  I still have a lot of questions and grief but was looking for an LDS perspective to help me and was uplifted by all the comments here.  In my heart I do believe I will have a chance to see and raise these boys after this life.</p>
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		<title>By: Gordon Wayne Watts</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gordon Wayne Watts</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Jul 2011 13:47:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>John, your daughter will be just fine -- she will get a fair shake by Jesus.

By the way, Jesus Himself visited me to share a few Bible verses I forgot in my original publishing -- see my updated research paper:

Source: http://GordonWatts.com/theology/WhenBabiesDie.html or:

http://GordonWayneWatts.com/theology/WhenBabiesDie.html

or even: http://gordon_watts.tripod.com/theology/WhenBabiesDie.html

---

NOTE: Jesus only visited me twice in my life in this manner -- once in the above, and once to show me the girl for me in re marriage.

Be blessed in Jesus, my friend.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>John, your daughter will be just fine &#8212; she will get a fair shake by Jesus.</p>
<p>By the way, Jesus Himself visited me to share a few Bible verses I forgot in my original publishing &#8212; see my updated research paper:</p>
<p>Source: <a href="http://GordonWatts.com/theology/WhenBabiesDie.html" rel="nofollow">http://GordonWatts.com/theology/WhenBabiesDie.html</a> or:</p>
<p><a href="http://GordonWayneWatts.com/theology/WhenBabiesDie.html" rel="nofollow">http://GordonWayneWatts.com/theology/WhenBabiesDie.html</a></p>
<p>or even: <a href="http://gordon_watts.tripod.com/theology/WhenBabiesDie.html" rel="nofollow">http://gordon_watts.tripod.com/theology/WhenBabiesDie.html</a></p>
<p>&#8212;</p>
<p>NOTE: Jesus only visited me twice in my life in this manner &#8212; once in the above, and once to show me the girl for me in re marriage.</p>
<p>Be blessed in Jesus, my friend.</p>
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		<title>By: John</title>
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		<dc:creator>John</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Jul 2011 17:02:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My daughter is in the hospital right now told last night that her little oy had already passed through the veil and will one endure labor knowing that in this life she will never hold her little one. Thank you for the comfort this article brings.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My daughter is in the hospital right now told last night that her little oy had already passed through the veil and will one endure labor knowing that in this life she will never hold her little one. Thank you for the comfort this article brings.</p>
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		<title>By: Gordon Watts</title>
		<link>http://www.millennialstar.org/tears-in-heaven-a-lds-perspective-on-stillborn-and-miscarried-babies/comment-page-1/#comment-66773</link>
		<dc:creator>Gordon Watts</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Mar 2011 22:29:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you for the links -- I have saved the pages &amp; plan to check them out ASAP.

I just looked at the time-stamp, of my last post, and it was in the wee morning hours of 3-23-2011, but as of late that afternoon, I had updated my page --and it looks like you saw the most current &#039;update&#039; of my page, where I relate a personal visit from Jesus, Himself, suggesting last-minute modifications and tweaks to my page.

THAT doesn&#039;t happen so often -a visit from the Big Boss, Himself!! --but I mentioned this in case you either logged onto my page right before I updated it -or in case you (or others) missed it on first pass.

Yes, I admit that I am glad to have a stamp of approval for my research, but making up somethinmg like this is not in my nature --besides, it is so wild, I almost could not have even imnagined it -even WERE I to be incined to lie about it: Indeed, truth *is* stranger than fiction.

Thx again, Joanna -- I hope to check out your links real quick.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you for the links &#8212; I have saved the pages &amp; plan to check them out ASAP.</p>
<p>I just looked at the time-stamp, of my last post, and it was in the wee morning hours of 3-23-2011, but as of late that afternoon, I had updated my page &#8211;and it looks like you saw the most current &#8216;update&#8217; of my page, where I relate a personal visit from Jesus, Himself, suggesting last-minute modifications and tweaks to my page.</p>
<p>THAT doesn&#8217;t happen so often -a visit from the Big Boss, Himself!! &#8211;but I mentioned this in case you either logged onto my page right before I updated it -or in case you (or others) missed it on first pass.</p>
<p>Yes, I admit that I am glad to have a stamp of approval for my research, but making up somethinmg like this is not in my nature &#8211;besides, it is so wild, I almost could not have even imnagined it -even WERE I to be incined to lie about it: Indeed, truth *is* stranger than fiction.</p>
<p>Thx again, Joanna &#8212; I hope to check out your links real quick.</p>
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		<title>By: JA Benson</title>
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		<dc:creator>JA Benson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Mar 2011 05:45:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Gordon-Thank you for taking the time to comment. I enjoyed reading your posts. Thank you for giving me the opportunity to hopefully clarify my beliefs. Your view points are very similar to LDS ones. Here are two &quot;official&quot; statements regarding the Salvation of Children:

http://lds.org/ldsorg/v/index.jsp?hideNav=1&amp;locale=0&amp;sourceId=51a5f48fa2d20110VgnVCM100000176f620a____&amp;vgnextoid=88021b08f338c010VgnVCM1000004d82620aRCRD

http://www.lightplanet.com/mormons/basic/doctrines/stillborn_children.htm

As LDS people we believe our children born and adopted to us are &quot;sealed&quot; to us by the ordinances of the Temple. This sealing means the relationship between husband and wife, parents and children are eternal.  For example, my late husband Mike and I were sealed/married as a young couple in the SLC Temple. This ordinance gives us the promise, if we live worthily, we and all our children, born and adopted, will &quot;belong to each other&quot; in the next life.  

The status of miscarried and stillborn babies are a bit more ambiguous. When I was a teen in the 1970&#039;s, there was a popular LDS play called &quot;Saturday&#039;s Warrior&quot;. It tells the story of a family both in the preexistence, earthly life and afterlife. One of the characters, Baby Emily is a miscarried baby, and later &quot;resurrected&quot; as a live birth at the end of the play. I do not think this is so. I believe the unborn remain our children in the next life. They belong to us just as our other live children do. Whether I raise my unborn son or not in the MIllennium is not a personal worry for me, I wanted the assurance ( l believe I have that witness) Baby Jake is my child and &quot;belongs&quot; to me as well. 

SO I definitely feel that  deceased children, both live births and stillborn/miscarriage, do not go to hell, but to Paradise/afterlife before Judgement, until the Millennium where G-d will sort it all out; whether I raise him or not, is not a concern of mine personally, only that he is my sealed child.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gordon-Thank you for taking the time to comment. I enjoyed reading your posts. Thank you for giving me the opportunity to hopefully clarify my beliefs. Your view points are very similar to LDS ones. Here are two &#8220;official&#8221; statements regarding the Salvation of Children:</p>
<p><a href="http://lds.org/ldsorg/v/index.jsp?hideNav=1&#038;locale=0&#038;sourceId=51a5f48fa2d20110VgnVCM100000176f620a____&#038;vgnextoid=88021b08f338c010VgnVCM1000004d82620aRCRD" rel="nofollow">http://lds.org/ldsorg/v/index.jsp?hideNav=1&#038;locale=0&#038;sourceId=51a5f48fa2d20110VgnVCM100000176f620a____&#038;vgnextoid=88021b08f338c010VgnVCM1000004d82620aRCRD</a></p>
<p><a href="http://www.lightplanet.com/mormons/basic/doctrines/stillborn_children.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.lightplanet.com/mormons/basic/doctrines/stillborn_children.htm</a></p>
<p>As LDS people we believe our children born and adopted to us are &#8220;sealed&#8221; to us by the ordinances of the Temple. This sealing means the relationship between husband and wife, parents and children are eternal.  For example, my late husband Mike and I were sealed/married as a young couple in the SLC Temple. This ordinance gives us the promise, if we live worthily, we and all our children, born and adopted, will &#8220;belong to each other&#8221; in the next life.  </p>
<p>The status of miscarried and stillborn babies are a bit more ambiguous. When I was a teen in the 1970&#8242;s, there was a popular LDS play called &#8220;Saturday&#8217;s Warrior&#8221;. It tells the story of a family both in the preexistence, earthly life and afterlife. One of the characters, Baby Emily is a miscarried baby, and later &#8220;resurrected&#8221; as a live birth at the end of the play. I do not think this is so. I believe the unborn remain our children in the next life. They belong to us just as our other live children do. Whether I raise my unborn son or not in the MIllennium is not a personal worry for me, I wanted the assurance ( l believe I have that witness) Baby Jake is my child and &#8220;belongs&#8221; to me as well. </p>
<p>SO I definitely feel that  deceased children, both live births and stillborn/miscarriage, do not go to hell, but to Paradise/afterlife before Judgement, until the Millennium where G-d will sort it all out; whether I raise him or not, is not a concern of mine personally, only that he is my sealed child.</p>
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