Sharron Angle’s old pastor tries to throw away Mormon votes for her.

Harry Reid’s opponent Sharron Angle has her own Rev. Jeremiah Wright:

His religion’s a cult. The Christian community — all the Christians, theologians and scholars, all recognize that, that Mormonism is a cult. I have books in my library on cults, and it lists Mormonism right there with all these bizarre cults.

Well, there must be a reason. I mean, here a member of a cult is one of the most powerful people in the United States. Doesn’t that alarm you? And his allegiance is to Salt Lake City. Something is up with that. Something’s weird. But nobody touches that — Harry Reid’s allegiance is to Salt Lake City. The Mormon church is rich, powerful, they do illegal things. They do secretive things. They’ve got all this money. They own American businesses. There’s weirdness going on there. Churches are not multi-millionaire organizations like the Mormon church.

You know, there’s some weirdness with that, but nobody questions it, nobody asks one question to Harry Reid and says, “Tell us about your faith. What does a Mormon believe?” Ask him about the holy garments that he wears that protect him from evil. Isn’t that kooky? Ask him about getting his body parts anointed by oil. Isn’t that kooky? Ask him about when he goes to the temple and he gets baptized for dead people. Isn’t that kooky? Ask him about the hit squad of the Mormon church and why they need people to kill Mormons that go against them. Isn’t that controlling? Ask him how they shun people, then they get their family members to disown them and divorce them if they dare leave the Mormon church. Isn’t that cultish? I mean, I could go on and on.

The Mormon church is a cult, and Harry Reid is a powerful person in a cult, and nobody even questions it.

A campaign spokesman issued a statement, “”She strongly disavows any disparaging remarks against Mormons. As a Christian, Sharron shares the same values with other active Christians, including those of the Latter Day Saints community. Her former pastor in no way speaks for Sharron.”

“Sharron Angle pastor: As a Mormon, Harry Reid is cult member”, Las Vegas Sun
“First Amendment vs. First Commandment: Sharron Angle and separation of church and state,” Reno News and Review

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Mansfield in the desertA third-generation southern Nevadan, I have lived in exile most of my life in such places as Los Alamos, Baltimore, Los Angeles, the western suburbs of Detroit, and currently the northern suburbs of Washington, D.C. I work as a fluid dynamics engineer. I was baptized at age twelve in the font of the Las Vegas Nevada Central Stake Center, and on my nineteenth birthday I received the endowment in the St. George Temple. I served as a missionary mostly in the Patagonia of Argentina from 1985 to 1987. My true calling in the Church seems to be working with Cub Scouts, whom I have served in different capacities in four states most years since 1992. (My oldest boy turned eight in 2004.) I also currently teach Sunday School to the thirteen-year-olds. I hold degrees from two universities named for men who died in the 1870s, the Brigham Young University and the Johns Hopkins University. My wife is Elizabeth Pack Mansfield, who comes from New Mexico's north central mountains and studied molecular biology at the same two schools I attended. We have four sons, whose care and admonition, along with care of my aged father, require much of Elizabeth's time. She currently serves the Church as Mia-Maid advisor, ward music chairman, and choir director, and plays violin whenever she can. One day, I would like to make shoes.

34 thoughts on “Sharron Angle’s old pastor tries to throw away Mormon votes for her.

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  2. Yeah, I don’t think she’s going to recover from this. I know it’s not her fault, really, that her pastor’s a bigot, but I think his bigotry and craziness will be the one factor that pushes this very close contest into a win for Reid.

  3. I actually think this will have almost zero effect on the race in Nevada. The race is all about the economy and Nevada’s 14 percent unemployment. Harry Reid is associated with big government solutions that haven’t worked. Angle is a weak candidate who nevertheless has recently pulled ahead slightly in polling.

    http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2010/senate/nv/nevada_senate_angle_vs_reid-1517.html

    Angle’s condemnation of her former paster’s comments is forthright and clear. Remember that Rev. Wright was still Obama’s pastor when his controversial statements came to light. Obama threw him under the bus once he became controversial. And Obama never completely repudiated all his comments.

    If Angle makes any disparaging remarks about Mormonism, I will be the first to call her out for doing so. I did so about Huckabee, and I wouldn’t vote for him for president under any circumstances. But remember it was Huckabee himself, not his former pastor, who deliberately tried to stir up anti-Mormon bigotry against Mitt Romney.

  4. Unlike Jeremiah Wright, Angle’s old pastor John Reed isn’t deliberately out to stir up anything, it doesn’t seem. The RN&R reporter sought Reed out to better understand Angle’s statements on religion and government and noticed that bringing up Mormons pushes the pastor’s buttons. I think the article is a decent piece of research. On a certain level I admire the integrity of John Reed and Jeremiah Wright to say what they’re going to say without paying attention to political consequences for their friends.

  5. I will note that a couple of Harry Reid’s senate races have had razor-thin finishes: lost by 600 votes to Paul Laxalt in ’74, defeated John Ensign by 400 in ’98. Every factor will play its part in determining the winner of his race against Sharron Angle.

  6. The Reid campaign has found a useful angle for attacking Angle through this:

    Despite the hateful religious bigotry involved, Angle wouldn’t address her relationship with her former spiritual advisor for the original story, and only after the ensuing media firestorm erupted did her spokesman issue a brief statement. In it, he claimed that Angle had not been a member of Sonrise church for six years.

    “Sharron has not been a member of this other church for over six years, and her former pastor in no way speaks for Sharron.”

    But according to the AP, that is a complete and total lie:

    But Reed said Angle sang in a contemporary Christian band and taught Sunday school for more than a decade at his Reno church until her husband urged her to switch to a different house of worship earlier this year where he could hold a more prominent volunteer position. “She asked if she could come back and visit,” Reed said. “She was very sad to leave us.”

    That’s right – Sharron Angle’s “pathological” inclination to offer bald-faced lies to the media and the voters of Nevada is so extreme that she lied about church.

    The writer of this must love having her job. There aren’t many places you can get paid to write rhetoric so over the top as that last paragraph.

  7. That seems about as sensible a complaint about Obamacare as worrying that it didn’t specifically exclude amputee thieves from receiving prosthetic hands. That would lack a lewd angle, though.

  8. John M, Harry Reid has spared no dirt in trying to bury Angle. The issue that Obamacare includes all kinds of unintended consequences is a completely valid complaint. This is exactly the reason that people like me were urging people to vote against it.

  9. You’re all as blind as a bat, because you are all missing the real story here!!

    When did Harry Reid’s change his allegiance to Salt Lake City!?!?!? And why did I not see this in the mainstream media? I think this is another case of a government cover up! Call Rush!

    Oh wait. Now I get it. He means his allegiance is literally to Salt Lake City, like as in Rocky Anderson. Oh, never mind.

  10. “The issue that Obamacare includes all kinds of unintended consequences is a completely valid complaint.”

    I agree with that, and I think making an issue of Coburn’s clownish amendment detracts from valid complaints. This is the season for hiring Saturday Night Live writers to make clownish jabs at opponents, though, so I shouldn’t complain about that happenning.

  11. “I actually think this will have almost zero effect on the race in Nevada. The race is all about the economy and Nevada’s 14 percent unemployment.”

    Zero effect? If this race was all about the economy, unemployment and Obamacare wouldn’t she be leading by more than the slightest percentage?

    With a race this close, where polls have been bouncing back and forth, it makes no sense at all that this would have zero effect.

    It’s been interesting to see so many people that attacked the Obama/Wright connection jumping up to defend Angle. Not surprising, but interesting. She attended this church for ten years up until earlier this year and she doesn’t share her pastors views on Mormonism? That would be great if it were true, but I doubt it.

  12. And what does Viagra have to do with Angle’s minister being a bigot? If she was a Democratic candidate would you be hellbent on discussing the downside of the Republican candidate? Why not start a new thread about Viagra?

  13. jjohnsen,

    Geoff B. likes to affect a persona of thoughfulness and reason to disguise his hyperpartisanship, but occasionally the mask drops.

  14. I believe Geoff is very thoughtful and reasonable except when it comes to Al Gore and Harry Reid.

  15. If I were to vote in Nevada, this development would, at the very least, cause me not to vote at all. I am conservative, but I must confess, people such as this pastor scare me just as much, if not more, that the people on the far left. I’m not sure if Angle’s response would be enough to persuade me to vote for her.

  16. It seems the only thing Angle has going for her is she is “Not Reid”. I have seen no policies, or proactive stances come out of her campaign.

    One factor that the polls don’t seem to reflect is that So. Nevada is in turmoil, with people moving out of their foreclosed homes, etc. Consequently, I think we might see decreased turnout as many voters won’t be properly registered in their new districts. This seems like it will be bad for Reid as Clark County generally edges Democratic.

    But this just goes to show that every bit counts. the fact that his son is also running for Gov, means that there are twice as many ads accusing a Reid of being bad for Nevada. For those less thoughtful voters the association may have an effect.

  17. Bill, you need to do a lot more reading. Is this hyper-partisan:

    http://www.millennialstar.org/a-close-reading-of-genesis-could-resolve-many-of-our-biggest-social-issues/

    If so, it is partisan for which political party, exactly?

    I have written literally a dozen posts in favor of immigration and critizing Republicans on that issue. I have written several posts against the death penalty, which I oppose. I have written in favor of Muslims building their cultural center near the World Trade Center site. I have critized the Cuban embargo, which is supported mostly by Republicans. I have written in favor of ending the wars in Afghanistan and Iraq, and just recently praised Obama’s position on Afghanistan.

    My friend, based on your comments over the years, it is you who are the blind partisan. You need to absorb a bit of that tolerance liberals are always talking about and perhaps apply it to your life. Just some friendly advice.

  18. Look on the bright side. The pastor is just trying every way he knows how to get Harry Reid unseated. I’m not saying the ends justify the means, but, let’s wait until after Harry Reid gets his walking papers, and then let’s politely correct this pastor’s ideas about the LDS church.

  19. Sure, let’s also wait until after Romney loses the 2012 nomination to correct anything said about Mormons. No hurry.

  20. I didn’t say you were a 100% orthodox partisan. I’m well aware of the deviations, and my phrasing above could be construed to mean that I don’t think they are sincere, which is not the case. Just that they are trotted out to mitigate the overwhelming one-sidedness of the “Worth Reading” links, or other links and comments in your posts. I get the impression that if you happened to be in the Senate, for instance, you would be one of these mavericks wringing his hands and talking about compromise who actually ended up voting almost always with his own side.

    My own infrequent comments tend to be technical and fact-based (the concurrent tax thread, for instance), but since we obviously disagree where the political middle is, I can see how you would view them as partisan, and of course, some of them are partisan, but rarely, if ever, blind.

  21. Bill, based on my politics, I’d never make it to the Senate because Democratic operatives would be sure to pull out all my blog posts against the death penalty and use them against me, so you don’t need to be worried about that unimaginably horrible possibility.

    I call them how I see them. Harry Reid is a good guy who is scum politically. Al Gore is a joke, a dangerous joke who wants to take away your freedom and mine for his own profit. You may disagree, but you will be wrong. :)

  22. Bill, by the way, aren’t you the same commenter who said he was going to send money to Betsy Markey. How do you feel about throwing away that money now? Heh.

  23. Well, the latest poll has her down by 3 points, but I agree that in the current climate it would be hard for her to win.

    You are referencing this thread (comment 39):

    http://www.millennialstar.org/rush-limbaughs-white-horse-prophecy-america-is-hanging-by-a-thread/

    Glad to see you slapped down the nonsense Marxist arguments. When there are real crazies about, garden variety hysteria can appear almost centrist.

    I sent a few people rewards for voting courageously against their perceived political interests and mentioned one name to give you a humourous tweak. Colorado politics has been pretty hilarious this year, almost as much as here in NY.

  24. Tim, in this election, that endorsement may actually garner more votes for Angle. I don’t know the guy, and he may be a true conservative, but the establishment is not too popular right now, so a Republican leader endorsing Reid isn’t likely to amount to a hill of beans. Angle won precisely because she is anti-establishment — if people wanted an establishment Republican they would have chosen Sue Lowden.

    As I say above, Nevada Mormons are smart enough to tell the difference between Angle and her ex-pastor. I really don’t think it will mean much. But of course we shall see.

  25. Bill said,

    Geoff B. likes to affect a persona of thoughfulness and reason to disguise his hyperpartisanship, but occasionally the mask drops.

    The only thing I’ve seen Geoff B. do on this site that I disagree with (as was shown in one of my comments in his last post) is his tendency to assume a commenter like myself who disagrees with him occasionally is automatically on the extreme opposite side of the political aisle (eg: there is no gray – only black and white). In every other instance he has represented himself very well. With an occasional lapse here and there that we are all guilty of.

    While I tend to not agree with about half of what Geoff B. writes, this kind of direct personal attack is not wise. Just like everyone else (you and I included, Bill) Geoff is human, and thus is wrong some of the time and right some of the time. To disagree with Geoff’s views with a well-thought-out and reasonable argument is an extremely valid endeavor, and one I hope I’ve done well on this site. But to attack him personally because you disagree with him? That does absolutely no good, and in fact completely devalues your opinion as a result.

    As for the topic at hand: I’m thinking we are all missing the point here. The politics surrounding this incident is not the important thing. Politics by its very nature will change and adapt and move on to something else over time. But public opinion about our Church continues to be damaged by such misrepresentations as was shown by Sharon Angle’s pastor. Instead of continuing a useless partisan bickering between us here, what should be discussed is how to fix such misunderstandings among those who have such bigotry against us.

    But lets make sure such a fix does not include an attack against the pastor for his views. If we tell him he is wrong with hatred, then we are basically proving his point, aren’t we?

  26. James, you’re right. I should has said “pond scum.”

    Good comments otherwise. Unfortunate this thread became about me (sorry John M), but it will not be that way from now on.

  27. Besides the Republican state senate leader Bill Raggio, mentioned above, the widow of the late Gov. Kenny Guinn is also endorsing Harry Reid. (link) Guinn was as establishment as it gets. That Sharron Angle is polling so well with the state party turning its back on her does indicate some strength in the tea party movement.

  28. I wouldn’t count her out yet. Angle has
    raised $14 million dollars last quarter. Average donation less than $100. Currently leading in the polls.

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