Comments on: Part IX Sephardic Jews and the LDS Connection: The Great Melungeon Migration http://www.millennialstar.org/part-ix-sephardic-jews-and-the-lds-connection-the-great-melungeon-migration/ Thu, 09 Feb 2012 01:51:43 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: JA Benson http://www.millennialstar.org/part-ix-sephardic-jews-and-the-lds-connection-the-great-melungeon-migration/comment-page-1/#comment-76357 JA Benson Wed, 12 Oct 2011 04:52:51 +0000 http://www.millennialstar.org/?p=4013#comment-76357 Hi Gladys- Sorry for the late response. If you had Sephardic DNA, it would not be as easy to detect as the Sephardim are historically diverse and migratory. I just noticed your comment. Melungeon families, could also include Ashkenazi, as Melungeons married others who were outcasts like themselves. Some of the Sephardic Jews migrated to Eastern Europe and mixed in with the Ashkenazi people. Likewise, some Ashkenazi migrated to the Turkish empire and were absorbed into the Sephardic populations. I do not know any resources about Melungeons and Ashkenazi. You could try Harry Stein and his Sephardic genealogy yahoo group see: sephardicforum@yahoogroups.com or Jeffrey Malka at http://www.sephardicgen.com/ . Good luck. Hi Gladys- Sorry for the late response. If you had Sephardic DNA, it would not be as easy to detect as the Sephardim are historically diverse and migratory. I just noticed your comment. Melungeon families, could also include Ashkenazi, as Melungeons married others who were outcasts like themselves. Some of the Sephardic Jews migrated to Eastern Europe and mixed in with the Ashkenazi people. Likewise, some Ashkenazi migrated to the Turkish empire and were absorbed into the Sephardic populations. I do not know any resources about Melungeons and Ashkenazi. You could try Harry Stein and his Sephardic genealogy yahoo group see: sephardicforum@yahoogroups.com or Jeffrey Malka at http://www.sephardicgen.com/ .
Good luck.

]]> By: Gladys Parker http://www.millennialstar.org/part-ix-sephardic-jews-and-the-lds-connection-the-great-melungeon-migration/comment-page-1/#comment-76053 Gladys Parker Wed, 05 Oct 2011 13:58:19 +0000 http://www.millennialstar.org/?p=4013#comment-76053 I've had my mtDNA tested and am descended from Ashkenzi Jews from Russia and Poland. Am trying to find the connection between my Jewish ancestors and more recent female ancestors who were mixed race (freed slaves), then Mormon, then 7th Day Adventist. Do you have some references or resources I could access to gain more info? Could Melungeon also include Ashkenazi Jews as well as Sephardic? (First time I;ve heard or read of that term.) I’ve had my mtDNA tested and am descended from Ashkenzi Jews from Russia and Poland. Am trying to find the connection between my Jewish ancestors and more recent female ancestors who were mixed race (freed slaves), then Mormon, then 7th Day Adventist. Do you have some references or resources I could access to gain more info? Could Melungeon also include Ashkenazi Jews as well as Sephardic? (First time I;ve heard or read of that term.)

]]> By: Myrlen (Myke) Britt http://www.millennialstar.org/part-ix-sephardic-jews-and-the-lds-connection-the-great-melungeon-migration/comment-page-1/#comment-71954 Myrlen (Myke) Britt Thu, 28 Jul 2011 19:42:05 +0000 http://www.millennialstar.org/?p=4013#comment-71954 My mother's sur name was BYBEE, her grandfather was PLEASANT BYBEE (one of many Bybee's named Pleasant, I have found) and she always told us that he/we were part indian. Since her death I have tried to find a link to my Native-American heritage but cannot get past Pleasant and his wife Nancy (I believe her last name was White). They lived in Jackson County, Tennessee before moving to Stewart County, Tn in the mid 1800's. His son (my granddad) wound up across the state line at Golden Pond (Trigg County) Kentucky where my mother was born in 1897. They moved to west Tennessee in 1913 and her dad, NEWTON COLUMBUS, died a few years later. Nancy is buried in the Bullock cemetery in Trigg county but we cannot locate Pleasant's gravesite. One daughter, Louisiana, was married to Bullock (George Washington, I think). Some Bullocks I have been in touch with say they were also told that they were part indian. After reading a lot about the Melungeons I believe we are probably descended from them rather than the cherokee or some other tribe. I would appreciate any information that anyone might be willing to share with me. My e-mail is tntaproot@att.net. I now live near Nashville, Tn. My mother’s sur name was BYBEE, her grandfather was PLEASANT BYBEE (one of many Bybee’s named Pleasant, I have found) and she always told us that he/we were part indian. Since her death I have tried to find a link to my Native-American heritage but cannot get past Pleasant and his wife Nancy (I believe her last name was White).
They lived in Jackson County, Tennessee before moving to Stewart County, Tn in the mid 1800′s. His son (my granddad) wound up across the state line at Golden Pond (Trigg County) Kentucky where my mother was born in 1897. They moved to west Tennessee in 1913 and her dad, NEWTON COLUMBUS, died a few years later. Nancy is buried in the Bullock cemetery in Trigg county but we cannot locate Pleasant’s gravesite. One daughter, Louisiana, was married to Bullock (George Washington, I think).
Some Bullocks I have been in touch with say they were also told that they were part indian. After reading a lot about the Melungeons I believe we are probably descended from them rather than the cherokee or some other tribe.
I would appreciate any information that anyone might be willing to share with me. My e-mail is tntaproot@att.net. I now live near Nashville, Tn.

]]> By: Joanne Pezzullo http://www.millennialstar.org/part-ix-sephardic-jews-and-the-lds-connection-the-great-melungeon-migration/comment-page-1/#comment-50957 Joanne Pezzullo Tue, 14 Sep 2010 12:54:45 +0000 http://www.millennialstar.org/?p=4013#comment-50957 Hirschman's research is nothing more than one more theory out there on the Melungeons. Kennedy says they were Turkish sailors, Hashaw says they were African slaves who stepped off the White Lion -- everyone, it seems, has a theory or agenda, and all present 'evidence' that someone else thinks proves something. No one can even agree on who the Melungeons really were, where they came from or where they went, what their names were. The history of the people called Melungeons has yet to be written. One must be careful and do their own research. Hirschman’s research is nothing more than one more theory out there on the Melungeons. Kennedy says they were Turkish sailors, Hashaw says they were African slaves who stepped off the White Lion — everyone, it seems, has a theory or agenda, and all present ‘evidence’ that someone else thinks proves something.

No one can even agree on who the Melungeons really were, where they came from or where they went, what their names were. The history of the people called Melungeons has yet to be written. One must be careful and do their own research.

]]> By: JA Benson http://www.millennialstar.org/part-ix-sephardic-jews-and-the-lds-connection-the-great-melungeon-migration/comment-page-1/#comment-43665 JA Benson Wed, 09 Dec 2009 03:36:38 +0000 http://www.millennialstar.org/?p=4013#comment-43665 Coffinberry- Thanks for stopping by to read. If your classmates are Melungeon and proud of it, they already know. This is cutting edge historical research. Our pioneer names and DNA. THe rest of the posts explain how this happened: part 1- http://www.millennialstar.org/rising-out-of-obscurity-sephardic-jews-and-the-lds-connection/ What happened in Spain part 2- http://www.millennialstar.org/part-ii-sephardic-jews-and-the-lds-connection-a-history-of-the-sephardim-in-spain/ Some went to Turkey part 3- http://www.millennialstar.org/ew/ Some went to Western Europe part 4- http://www.millennialstar.org/part-iv-lds-and-the-sephardic-connection-western-europe/ Sephardic Influences part 5- http://www.millennialstar.org/part-v-lds-and-the-sephardic-connection-seeding-the-protestant-reformation/ England and Spain were at war. The Western Europe Converso and Crypto Jews fled even farther west in fear of Spain part 6- http://www.millennialstar.org/part-vi-lds-and-the-sephardic-connection-braving-the-new-world-the-lost-colony-of-roanoke/ part 7- http://www.millennialstar.org/part-vii-sephardic-jews-and-the-lds-connection-the-first-thanksgiving-or-sukkoth-in-america/ Some Sephardic Jews were part of the tri-isolate communities in America part 8- http://www.millennialstar.org/part-viii-sephardic-jews-and-the-lds-connection-what-the-heck-is-a-melungeon/ Sephardic descendants preferred to be out on the wilderness part 9- http://www.millennialstar.org/part-ix-sephardic-jews-and-the-lds-connection-the-great-melungeon-migration/ Sephardim altered or adapted their surnames, but often kept a few Sephardic given names part 10- http://www.millennialstar.org/part-x-sephardic-jews-and-the-lds-connection-sephardic-names-and-what-to-look-for/ Sephardic Jews had unique illnesses: http://www.millennialstar.org/family-history-can-save-your-life/ Evidence of Orson Hyde’s Jewish ancestry using the Hirschman model http://www.millennialstar.org/sephardic-jews-and-the-lds-connection-utah-history-encyclopedia-is-wrong-joseph-smith-was-right-orson-hyde-is-of-jewish-ancestry/ We are all gathered http://www.millennialstar.org/sephardic-jews-and-the-lds-connection-the-gathering/ Coffinberry- Thanks for stopping by to read. If your classmates are Melungeon and proud of it, they already know. This is cutting edge historical research.

Our pioneer names and DNA. THe rest of the posts explain how this happened:
part 1- http://www.millennialstar.org/rising-out-of-obscurity-sephardic-jews-and-the-lds-connection/

What happened in Spain
part 2- http://www.millennialstar.org/part-ii-sephardic-jews-and-the-lds-connection-a-history-of-the-sephardim-in-spain/

Some went to Turkey
part 3- http://www.millennialstar.org/ew/

Some went to Western Europe
part 4- http://www.millennialstar.org/part-iv-lds-and-the-sephardic-connection-western-europe/

Sephardic Influences
part 5- http://www.millennialstar.org/part-v-lds-and-the-sephardic-connection-seeding-the-protestant-reformation/

England and Spain were at war. The Western Europe Converso and Crypto Jews fled even farther west in fear of Spain
part 6- http://www.millennialstar.org/part-vi-lds-and-the-sephardic-connection-braving-the-new-world-the-lost-colony-of-roanoke/
part 7- http://www.millennialstar.org/part-vii-sephardic-jews-and-the-lds-connection-the-first-thanksgiving-or-sukkoth-in-america/

Some Sephardic Jews were part of the tri-isolate communities in America
part 8- http://www.millennialstar.org/part-viii-sephardic-jews-and-the-lds-connection-what-the-heck-is-a-melungeon/

Sephardic descendants preferred to be out on the wilderness
part 9- http://www.millennialstar.org/part-ix-sephardic-jews-and-the-lds-connection-the-great-melungeon-migration/

Sephardim altered or adapted their surnames, but often kept a few Sephardic given names
part 10- http://www.millennialstar.org/part-x-sephardic-jews-and-the-lds-connection-sephardic-names-and-what-to-look-for/

Sephardic Jews had unique illnesses:
http://www.millennialstar.org/family-history-can-save-your-life/

Evidence of Orson Hyde’s Jewish ancestry using the Hirschman model
http://www.millennialstar.org/sephardic-jews-and-the-lds-connection-utah-history-encyclopedia-is-wrong-joseph-smith-was-right-orson-hyde-is-of-jewish-ancestry/

We are all gathered
http://www.millennialstar.org/sephardic-jews-and-the-lds-connection-the-gathering/

]]> By: Coffinberry http://www.millennialstar.org/part-ix-sephardic-jews-and-the-lds-connection-the-great-melungeon-migration/comment-page-1/#comment-43660 Coffinberry Wed, 09 Dec 2009 02:15:23 +0000 http://www.millennialstar.org/?p=4013#comment-43660 Imagining what my classmates in highschool just outside Sneedville Tennessee would think of this article...hoowee Imagining what my classmates in highschool just outside Sneedville Tennessee would think of this article…hoowee

]]> By: JA Benson http://www.millennialstar.org/part-ix-sephardic-jews-and-the-lds-connection-the-great-melungeon-migration/comment-page-1/#comment-43605 JA Benson Tue, 08 Dec 2009 04:46:20 +0000 http://www.millennialstar.org/?p=4013#comment-43605 Yeah Geoff, kinda obvious. You sure are a smart one :) Probably all/most Melungeons (meaning those in the identified communities) are Jewish/Moorish. Not all Converso/Crypto Sephardic Jews in America are Melungeons. Plenty of Iberian Jews melted into the Western European population in America. The Sephardim are a blend of Judah and Benjamin. These were the two tribes Solomon sent out to colonize Iberia. One way to tell if you are from the Tribe of Benjamin is to look for a black dog or wolf on your family's crest. Provided it is legitimate of course. Judah's symbol is the lion. As for the rest of your question we will get to it, but yes and yes. I am sure we are all/most assigned to Ephraim. Joseph Fielding Smith said we are ALL a mix of more than one tribe. It does not matter we (Ephraimites) get to be the busy bees of this dispensation. Makes me tired to be a busy bee, but endure to the end. Yeah Geoff, kinda obvious. You sure are a smart one :)

Probably all/most Melungeons (meaning those in the identified communities) are Jewish/Moorish. Not all Converso/Crypto Sephardic Jews in America are Melungeons. Plenty of Iberian Jews melted into the Western European population in America. The Sephardim are a blend of Judah and Benjamin. These were the two tribes Solomon sent out to colonize Iberia. One way to tell if you are from the Tribe of Benjamin is to look for a black dog or wolf on your family’s crest. Provided it is legitimate of course. Judah’s symbol is the lion.

As for the rest of your question we will get to it, but yes and yes. I am sure we are all/most assigned to Ephraim. Joseph Fielding Smith said we are ALL a mix of more than one tribe. It does not matter we (Ephraimites) get to be the busy bees of this dispensation. Makes me tired to be a busy bee, but endure to the end.

]]> By: Geoff B http://www.millennialstar.org/part-ix-sephardic-jews-and-the-lds-connection-the-great-melungeon-migration/comment-page-1/#comment-43603 Geoff B Tue, 08 Dec 2009 04:18:42 +0000 http://www.millennialstar.org/?p=4013#comment-43603 How did I know we would be learning that Melungeons had Jewish connections? Perhaps it was the title. :) So are the Melungeons from the tribe of Judah? Did some of them accept the gospel, and do we have any of their patriarchal blessings? Inquiring minds want to know. How did I know we would be learning that Melungeons had Jewish connections? Perhaps it was the title. :)

So are the Melungeons from the tribe of Judah? Did some of them accept the gospel, and do we have any of their patriarchal blessings?

Inquiring minds want to know.

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