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		<title>By: David T.</title>
		<link>http://www.millennialstar.org/on-the-road-on-the-sabbath/comment-page-1/#comment-34690</link>
		<dc:creator>David T.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Jan 2009 19:42:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I personally am not big on seeking out local wards when I&#039;m on vacation. To me &quot;vacation&quot; means vacation, and I&#039;d prefer to shelve ALL my normal proclivities whilst galavanting hither and yon. My wife, on the other hand, born and bred from good faithful stock, has already calendared the sac meeting into our itinerary before we left the house, and despite any petulant lip-drooping from me, we inevitably always go (does grudging sacrament-partaking diminish blessings?).

The one time I was actually glad church pimpled my trip was when we went to a ward in Manhattan and I had a brunette Eve sighting.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I personally am not big on seeking out local wards when I&#8217;m on vacation. To me &#8220;vacation&#8221; means vacation, and I&#8217;d prefer to shelve ALL my normal proclivities whilst galavanting hither and yon. My wife, on the other hand, born and bred from good faithful stock, has already calendared the sac meeting into our itinerary before we left the house, and despite any petulant lip-drooping from me, we inevitably always go (does grudging sacrament-partaking diminish blessings?).</p>
<p>The one time I was actually glad church pimpled my trip was when we went to a ward in Manhattan and I had a brunette Eve sighting.</p>
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		<title>By: Eric</title>
		<link>http://www.millennialstar.org/on-the-road-on-the-sabbath/comment-page-1/#comment-31027</link>
		<dc:creator>Eric</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Jul 2008 14:27:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have traveled extensively in Latin America and have enjoyed attending sacrament meeting there. The ability to speak Spanish helps a lot, but I have attended with people who didn&#039;t, and they still found the experience worthwhile. A couple times U.S. missionaries offered to translate the talks for the monolinguals among us, and in every case there&#039;s always been one person around with enough English skills to at least greet all of us.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have traveled extensively in Latin America and have enjoyed attending sacrament meeting there. The ability to speak Spanish helps a lot, but I have attended with people who didn&#8217;t, and they still found the experience worthwhile. A couple times U.S. missionaries offered to translate the talks for the monolinguals among us, and in every case there&#8217;s always been one person around with enough English skills to at least greet all of us.</p>
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		<title>By: Bookslinger</title>
		<link>http://www.millennialstar.org/on-the-road-on-the-sabbath/comment-page-1/#comment-30945</link>
		<dc:creator>Bookslinger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Jun 2008 23:15:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rd,  I&#039;ve never taught primary, or had kids.  If the ward you are visiting already has a primary class for the same age as your kids, why would it be a burden?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rd,  I&#8217;ve never taught primary, or had kids.  If the ward you are visiting already has a primary class for the same age as your kids, why would it be a burden?</p>
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		<title>By: rd</title>
		<link>http://www.millennialstar.org/on-the-road-on-the-sabbath/comment-page-1/#comment-30924</link>
		<dc:creator>rd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Jun 2008 14:44:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We try to go to sacrament meeting.  

One item that I have not come to terms with, though, particularly toting around with a gaggle of small children, is whether we should really burden an unexpecting ward with our kids (good kids, but still kids) during the primary hours.  We typically do not and try to find other activities to fill the day after the sacrament service.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We try to go to sacrament meeting.  </p>
<p>One item that I have not come to terms with, though, particularly toting around with a gaggle of small children, is whether we should really burden an unexpecting ward with our kids (good kids, but still kids) during the primary hours.  We typically do not and try to find other activities to fill the day after the sacrament service.</p>
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		<title>By: Muslihoon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Muslihoon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Jun 2008 14:40:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I would have to agree with Bookslinger.

When I decided to come back into full activity of the Church, I began to do so in the singles branch, to which I had to move my records. No one knew me, I knew no one (except for the branch president). After one Sunday of waiting to be socialized, I decided to reach out and socialize another brother, which I&#039;m glad I did. He&#039;s a good friend now and helps me tremendously in church (last Sunday, he taught me how to prepare the sacrament and the table, how to bless the sacrament, how to give the trays to the brothers passing it out, and so on - first time I had done these things!). So we have a good thing going, which would not have happened had I stuck to my usual &lt;i&gt;modus operandi&lt;/i&gt; and waited to be socialized.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would have to agree with Bookslinger.</p>
<p>When I decided to come back into full activity of the Church, I began to do so in the singles branch, to which I had to move my records. No one knew me, I knew no one (except for the branch president). After one Sunday of waiting to be socialized, I decided to reach out and socialize another brother, which I&#8217;m glad I did. He&#8217;s a good friend now and helps me tremendously in church (last Sunday, he taught me how to prepare the sacrament and the table, how to bless the sacrament, how to give the trays to the brothers passing it out, and so on &#8211; first time I had done these things!). So we have a good thing going, which would not have happened had I stuck to my usual <i>modus operandi</i> and waited to be socialized.</p>
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		<title>By: Bookslinger</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bookslinger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Jun 2008 14:27:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Skaught:  I&#039;ve had similar disappointments when members didn&#039;t live up to the expectations I had for them.  After a long time of bitterness, I finally realized that there just aren&#039;t enough perfect elders in the church to fill all the Elders&#039; Quorums.  Just like there aren&#039;t enough perfect (or even &quot;good enough&quot;) 19 year olds to send out on missions.

There aren&#039;t enough perfect (or even &quot;good enough&quot;) men to fill all the leadership slots in every single ward (though some wards can), including EQ Pres and EQ Instructor.  It could be that the bishopric in that ward put the best men in charge of the youth program, and their EQ and their HPG had to get by with what was left over.

The June 2008 Ensign has an article &quot;Reaching Out to Belong&quot;.    There&#039;s a good paragraph in that article about taking the lead.  If others don&#039;t reach out to you, you can be the first to smile, say hello, or extend a hand.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Skaught:  I&#8217;ve had similar disappointments when members didn&#8217;t live up to the expectations I had for them.  After a long time of bitterness, I finally realized that there just aren&#8217;t enough perfect elders in the church to fill all the Elders&#8217; Quorums.  Just like there aren&#8217;t enough perfect (or even &#8220;good enough&#8221;) 19 year olds to send out on missions.</p>
<p>There aren&#8217;t enough perfect (or even &#8220;good enough&#8221;) men to fill all the leadership slots in every single ward (though some wards can), including EQ Pres and EQ Instructor.  It could be that the bishopric in that ward put the best men in charge of the youth program, and their EQ and their HPG had to get by with what was left over.</p>
<p>The June 2008 Ensign has an article &#8220;Reaching Out to Belong&#8221;.    There&#8217;s a good paragraph in that article about taking the lead.  If others don&#8217;t reach out to you, you can be the first to smile, say hello, or extend a hand.</p>
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		<title>By: Skaught</title>
		<link>http://www.millennialstar.org/on-the-road-on-the-sabbath/comment-page-1/#comment-30903</link>
		<dc:creator>Skaught</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Jun 2008 01:26:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When I travel I always try to attend Sacrament Meeting. I have some apprehension about going to priesthood after a bad experience in Orange County, CA. They didn&#039;t recognize any visitors in priesthood opening exercises and it was the same in Elders Quorum. I couldn&#039;t believe it; it was as if I was completely invisible. To add insult to injury, there was no lesson to speak of...only a bunch of sophomoric humor and golf stories.  I was shocked and disappointed, and I&#039;m one who thrives on humor. I debated whether to get up and walk out, but my non-confrontational nature won out and I stayed, hoping for some kind of redemption.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When I travel I always try to attend Sacrament Meeting. I have some apprehension about going to priesthood after a bad experience in Orange County, CA. They didn&#8217;t recognize any visitors in priesthood opening exercises and it was the same in Elders Quorum. I couldn&#8217;t believe it; it was as if I was completely invisible. To add insult to injury, there was no lesson to speak of&#8230;only a bunch of sophomoric humor and golf stories.  I was shocked and disappointed, and I&#8217;m one who thrives on humor. I debated whether to get up and walk out, but my non-confrontational nature won out and I stayed, hoping for some kind of redemption.</p>
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		<title>By: Sarah</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sarah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Jun 2008 00:24:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bookslinger, your social courage astounds me.  Bearing in mind that, as a ward singles rep, I would stare in terror at the phone number I&#039;d been handed for over a week, and then be both ashamed and relieved when I realized that the visitor had already left.  It takes every ounce of my self-confidence to do a Primary lesson in front of a highly sympathetic audience of 7/8-year olds that I&#039;ve known for a long time... the idea of calling strangers actually makes me shudder, physically, with dread.

Having said that, when I was a kid, I always made sure to attend church on Sunday -- probably in part because it annoyed my non-member dad -- and I still dislike the Sea Cadet officer (an adult) who told me during our leadership academy that &quot;the US Navy doesn&#039;t recognize Mormons as a religion&quot; and had me go to the Catholic mass instead.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bookslinger, your social courage astounds me.  Bearing in mind that, as a ward singles rep, I would stare in terror at the phone number I&#8217;d been handed for over a week, and then be both ashamed and relieved when I realized that the visitor had already left.  It takes every ounce of my self-confidence to do a Primary lesson in front of a highly sympathetic audience of 7/8-year olds that I&#8217;ve known for a long time&#8230; the idea of calling strangers actually makes me shudder, physically, with dread.</p>
<p>Having said that, when I was a kid, I always made sure to attend church on Sunday &#8212; probably in part because it annoyed my non-member dad &#8212; and I still dislike the Sea Cadet officer (an adult) who told me during our leadership academy that &#8220;the US Navy doesn&#8217;t recognize Mormons as a religion&#8221; and had me go to the Catholic mass instead.</p>
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		<title>By: bbell</title>
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		<dc:creator>bbell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Jun 2008 20:36:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We always attend while on vacation.  One of my best memories is attending church in Corpus Chrsitie TX.  The ward was English speaking but almost everybody was Mexican.  The spirit was really strong there that day.  Also I normally am buried with callings related stuff and it is nice to just relax for a change.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We always attend while on vacation.  One of my best memories is attending church in Corpus Chrsitie TX.  The ward was English speaking but almost everybody was Mexican.  The spirit was really strong there that day.  Also I normally am buried with callings related stuff and it is nice to just relax for a change.</p>
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		<title>By: Bookslinger</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bookslinger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Jun 2008 16:16:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tanya, when I travel, and will be in one spot for a weekend, I call around ahead of time, to a Family History Center, and try to find a stake or ward singles rep.  Looking at www.familysearch.org, you can find the schedule of that FHC and call when it&#039;s open. Better chance of reaching someone than calling the hall phone or bishop&#039;s office&#039;s phone.  Then they can just look up people in the stake directory.

That way, if they have anything going on on Friday or Saturday night, you can go there to meet people.  Whereas if your first contact is Sunday, then you&#039;ve already missed what happened the previous fri/sat.

It may take a few phone calls back and forth between them or other people-in-the-know, while they try to get you in contact with the singles rep.  But once, when I called ahead to a FHC in San Antonio Texas, and asked if they could look up the stake single rep, and give him/her my name &amp; number for a call-back, they just handed the phone receiver to her. She was volunteering there when I called.  

I was able to attend their singles group dinner-out that Friday, went with them to see the temple all lit up that night (just after the open house and prior to the dedication) and I didn&#039;t have to show up at church on Sunday not knowing anyone.

I learned the trick on a trip to Colorado. I arrived mid-week, and dropped by the stake center just hoping for an odd chance of finding something going on. The only thing open was the FHC.  They looked up a contact or two in the stake directory, and they had one person call me, then the next person I talked to was a singles rep, and then I had dinner with her that night, all within a few hours of arriving.  

I went with them to a neighboring stake&#039;s singles game night that Friday, and a singles dinner/fireside that Sunday.

Seek and indeed ye shall find.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tanya, when I travel, and will be in one spot for a weekend, I call around ahead of time, to a Family History Center, and try to find a stake or ward singles rep.  Looking at <a href="http://www.familysearch.org" rel="nofollow">http://www.familysearch.org</a>, you can find the schedule of that FHC and call when it&#8217;s open. Better chance of reaching someone than calling the hall phone or bishop&#8217;s office&#8217;s phone.  Then they can just look up people in the stake directory.</p>
<p>That way, if they have anything going on on Friday or Saturday night, you can go there to meet people.  Whereas if your first contact is Sunday, then you&#8217;ve already missed what happened the previous fri/sat.</p>
<p>It may take a few phone calls back and forth between them or other people-in-the-know, while they try to get you in contact with the singles rep.  But once, when I called ahead to a FHC in San Antonio Texas, and asked if they could look up the stake single rep, and give him/her my name &amp; number for a call-back, they just handed the phone receiver to her. She was volunteering there when I called.  </p>
<p>I was able to attend their singles group dinner-out that Friday, went with them to see the temple all lit up that night (just after the open house and prior to the dedication) and I didn&#8217;t have to show up at church on Sunday not knowing anyone.</p>
<p>I learned the trick on a trip to Colorado. I arrived mid-week, and dropped by the stake center just hoping for an odd chance of finding something going on. The only thing open was the FHC.  They looked up a contact or two in the stake directory, and they had one person call me, then the next person I talked to was a singles rep, and then I had dinner with her that night, all within a few hours of arriving.  </p>
<p>I went with them to a neighboring stake&#8217;s singles game night that Friday, and a singles dinner/fireside that Sunday.</p>
<p>Seek and indeed ye shall find.</p>
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