Comments on: Novak on Romney’s religious test

By: Adam Greenwood [Visitor]

Adam Greenwood [Visitor] — Tue, 09 May 2006 05:43:24 +0000

“I stretched things a little with “mandate”

You stretched them to hell-and-gone. If this is “mandating”, you’re a cauliflower.

By: John Taber [Visitor]

John Taber [Visitor] — Mon, 08 May 2006 17:15:18 +0000

I stretched things a little with “mandate”, but Kanab did pass a resolution supporting the Sutherland Institute’s attempt to take the proclamation on the family a bit further. See http://www.sltrib.com/utah/ci_3478210 , http://www.sltrib.com/utah/ci_3765543 , and http://www.sltrib.com/ci_3797044 . Sutherland offered the resolution to every municipality in Utah, but only Kanab adopted it.

This is the sort of thing that comes to mind when I hear about the “need” for “family-friendly” laws. That and activist judges like David Young in Park City, Utah, who in 1994 ruled that a woman in a divorce case couldn’t take her children out of Utah because she wasn’t “active in the Church” (the judge’s words).

By: Adam Greenwood [Member]

Adam Greenwood [Member] — Mon, 08 May 2006 15:24:48 +0000

Don’t know what you’re talking about, John Taber, but ten-to-one you’ve been misinformed. Has Kanab made it a crime to have a small family? Not likely.

By: John Taber [Visitor]

John Taber [Visitor] — Mon, 08 May 2006 14:58:40 +0000

I'm in it because I want family-friendly and virtue-minded laws.

Does that include mandating full quivers of children like they do in Kanab, Utah?

By: Adam Greenwood [Member]

Adam Greenwood [Member] — Sun, 07 May 2006 18:09:16 +0000

Lots and lots. I’m not in politics to feel good or to gain social acceptance. I’m in it because I want family-friendly and virtue-minded laws.

By: Last Lemming [Visitor]

Last Lemming [Visitor] — Fri, 05 May 2006 21:12:16 +0000

Perhaps you had me in mind

Er.. probably not based on my comment in this thread. But perhaps based on my comments on the BT thread. I can't keep all the Mitt threads straight.

By: Last Lemming [Visitor]

Last Lemming [Visitor] — Fri, 05 May 2006 21:08:54 +0000

Perhaps you had me in mind.

I am happy to admit that I would love to see the conservative coalition break up. When John McCain has to remind people that he, too, is a conservative, things have gone way too far.

And I have to wonder; how much public abuse from evangelical preachers would you tolerate in hopes of holding the conservative coalition together?

By: Adam Greenwood [Member]

Adam Greenwood [Member] — Fri, 05 May 2006 20:02:36 +0000

I didn’t have you or your brother in mind. Apologies.

By: Jordan [Visitor]

Jordan [Visitor] — Fri, 05 May 2006 04:00:47 +0000

I don't *want* the conservative coalition to break up. Quite the contrary. I just am incredibly biased against evangelical "christians" because of experiences with them in my personal life.

But, unlike them for one of us, I would still vote for one of them. And I think that we must stand together with these people against a form of liberalism which seems throughout the years to ever more separate itself from basic moral values.

I respect them, I would vote for them, and I support them. I just have almost zero trust in their ability to extend the same courtesy to mormons. That's all.

By: Adam Greenwood [Member]

Adam Greenwood [Member] — Thu, 04 May 2006 17:09:15 +0000

A query: what level of performance by Mitt Romney would make the evangelical haters here accept that they might be wrong about most evangelicals (though clearly not all of them)? If he fails, how bad does he have to fail before can we be sure its because of his faith and not his waffling on abortion, his being from Massachussetts, his lack of military experience, etc.? My personal opinion is that many of the evangelicals who are the most anti-Mormon are among those who don’t really get politically involved.

A good many of the people who are convinced evangelicals would never vote for a mormon are those who *want* the conservative coalition to break up. It wouldnt’ make them happy at all if evangelicals and Mormons forged a closer political relationship, so they try to nudge things along a little.