Comments on: All I ask is that the candidates court me until the bitter end. http://www.millennialstar.org/all-i-ask-is-that-the-candidates-court-me-until-the-bitter-end/ Thu, 09 Feb 2012 01:51:43 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: BrianJ http://www.millennialstar.org/all-i-ask-is-that-the-candidates-court-me-until-the-bitter-end/comment-page-1/#comment-32467 BrianJ Mon, 06 Oct 2008 04:23:08 +0000 http://www.millennialstar.org/2008/09/30/all-i-ask-is-that-the-candidates-court-me-until-the-bitter-end/#comment-32467 "lesser of two evils..." No way. Not for me. I'm voting <b><i>for</i></b> my pick straight up. “lesser of two evils…”

No way. Not for me. I’m voting for my pick straight up.

]]> By: Tossman http://www.millennialstar.org/all-i-ask-is-that-the-candidates-court-me-until-the-bitter-end/comment-page-1/#comment-32466 Tossman Mon, 06 Oct 2008 04:10:43 +0000 http://www.millennialstar.org/2008/09/30/all-i-ask-is-that-the-candidates-court-me-until-the-bitter-end/#comment-32466 That's all you got, Clark? That’s all you got, Clark?

]]> By: Clark Goble http://www.millennialstar.org/all-i-ask-is-that-the-candidates-court-me-until-the-bitter-end/comment-page-1/#comment-32465 Clark Goble Mon, 06 Oct 2008 01:51:02 +0000 http://www.millennialstar.org/2008/09/30/all-i-ask-is-that-the-candidates-court-me-until-the-bitter-end/#comment-32465 After 8 years of George Bush I don't trust gut instincts anymore. After 8 years of George Bush I don’t trust gut instincts anymore.

]]> By: Tossman http://www.millennialstar.org/all-i-ask-is-that-the-candidates-court-me-until-the-bitter-end/comment-page-1/#comment-32457 Tossman Sun, 05 Oct 2008 11:04:52 +0000 http://www.millennialstar.org/2008/09/30/all-i-ask-is-that-the-candidates-court-me-until-the-bitter-end/#comment-32457 Clark, I'm sorry you understood me to agree with you as much as you did. I must not have made my points well enough. You say you could argue strongly against my disagreements. Please do. Other than a presidential demeanor and the ability to read a teleprompter well, Obama has no strengths. None. Ivan, I think most of us here agree that this is a 'lesser of two evils' election, inherently based on who has fewer negatives. Thus, we're not so focused on McCain's positives as we are Obama's negatives. Even so, I'll humor you. 1. McCain loves this country like I love this country, and he gave all but his life in defense of it. 2. Thus, McCain is more likely than Obama to understand me, and to defend the values I hold dear. 3. Three words: Supreme Court Justices. 4. McCain may not understand the economy like, say, Mitt, but he seems to at least grasp conservative fiscality. Palin will have influence there, too. 5. This is more of a gut thing and less an empirical one: I trust McCain more than Obama. These are just off the top of my head. If, Ivan, you are indeed still undecided on this, I'm not sure it's worth anybody's time trying to convince you. Clark, I’m sorry you understood me to agree with you as much as you did. I must not have made my points well enough. You say you could argue strongly against my disagreements. Please do.

Other than a presidential demeanor and the ability to read a teleprompter well, Obama has no strengths. None.

Ivan, I think most of us here agree that this is a ‘lesser of two evils’ election, inherently based on who has fewer negatives. Thus, we’re not so focused on McCain’s positives as we are Obama’s negatives.

Even so, I’ll humor you.

1. McCain loves this country like I love this country, and he gave all but his life in defense of it.

2. Thus, McCain is more likely than Obama to understand me, and to defend the values I hold dear.

3. Three words: Supreme Court Justices.

4. McCain may not understand the economy like, say, Mitt, but he seems to at least grasp conservative fiscality. Palin will have influence there, too.

5. This is more of a gut thing and less an empirical one: I trust McCain more than Obama.

These are just off the top of my head. If, Ivan, you are indeed still undecided on this, I’m not sure it’s worth anybody’s time trying to convince you.

]]> By: Ivan Wolfe http://www.millennialstar.org/all-i-ask-is-that-the-candidates-court-me-until-the-bitter-end/comment-page-1/#comment-32453 Ivan Wolfe Fri, 03 Oct 2008 23:23:47 +0000 http://www.millennialstar.org/2008/09/30/all-i-ask-is-that-the-candidates-court-me-until-the-bitter-end/#comment-32453 Geoff - If you respond to Clark's list, I would prefer it if, instead of refuting the list, providing your own list of reasons to vote for McCain. At this point, I've heard all the negative stuff about both candidates, and I'm more interested in reasons to vote for someone rather than vote against someone. Geoff -

If you respond to Clark’s list, I would prefer it if, instead of refuting the list, providing your own list of reasons to vote for McCain. At this point, I’ve heard all the negative stuff about both candidates, and I’m more interested in reasons to vote for someone rather than vote against someone.

]]> By: Clark Goble http://www.millennialstar.org/all-i-ask-is-that-the-candidates-court-me-until-the-bitter-end/comment-page-1/#comment-32452 Clark Goble Fri, 03 Oct 2008 21:47:30 +0000 http://www.millennialstar.org/2008/09/30/all-i-ask-is-that-the-candidates-court-me-until-the-bitter-end/#comment-32452 Geoff, most of Tossman's comments were agreeing with me. (1, 3, 6, 7, 8, 9, and 10) He disagrees with the strength of some of the points but he seemed largely to agree. Even where he disagreed I think I could argue strong counter-arguments. But of course the point was to show positives about Obama. Even if you don't like him you have to acknowledge he has strengths. The question of the cost/benefit analysis is a whole other issue and has a lot more to do with McCain's negatives. Geoff, most of Tossman’s comments were agreeing with me. (1, 3, 6, 7, 8, 9, and 10) He disagrees with the strength of some of the points but he seemed largely to agree. Even where he disagreed I think I could argue strong counter-arguments.

But of course the point was to show positives about Obama. Even if you don’t like him you have to acknowledge he has strengths. The question of the cost/benefit analysis is a whole other issue and has a lot more to do with McCain’s negatives.

]]> By: Geoff B. http://www.millennialstar.org/all-i-ask-is-that-the-candidates-court-me-until-the-bitter-end/comment-page-1/#comment-32451 Geoff B. Fri, 03 Oct 2008 18:13:27 +0000 http://www.millennialstar.org/2008/09/30/all-i-ask-is-that-the-candidates-court-me-until-the-bitter-end/#comment-32451 Clark/Ivan, I'm in the Utah mountains near Fairview riding my horse around and helping round up some cows, so I only have access to the internet about 15 mins a day. I would like to answer Clark's list of 10 reasons to vote for Obama and probably will in a different post next week when I'm back home. Meanwhile, I think Tossman makes some good points. Clark/Ivan, I’m in the Utah mountains near Fairview riding my horse around and helping round up some cows, so I only have access to the internet about 15 mins a day. I would like to answer Clark’s list of 10 reasons to vote for Obama and probably will in a different post next week when I’m back home. Meanwhile, I think Tossman makes some good points.

]]> By: Clark Goble http://www.millennialstar.org/all-i-ask-is-that-the-candidates-court-me-until-the-bitter-end/comment-page-1/#comment-32450 Clark Goble Fri, 03 Oct 2008 16:04:55 +0000 http://www.millennialstar.org/2008/09/30/all-i-ask-is-that-the-candidates-court-me-until-the-bitter-end/#comment-32450 Bookslinger +++ Bookslinger +++

]]> By: BrianJ http://www.millennialstar.org/all-i-ask-is-that-the-candidates-court-me-until-the-bitter-end/comment-page-1/#comment-32449 BrianJ Fri, 03 Oct 2008 15:23:58 +0000 http://www.millennialstar.org/2008/09/30/all-i-ask-is-that-the-candidates-court-me-until-the-bitter-end/#comment-32449 Ivan: It's funny how politics can spoil words/phrases like that, even if you're for the guy/gal. Maybe a new word is in order: "John McCain: the real chaverick." (Although that leaves "mange" untaken....) Ivan: It’s funny how politics can spoil words/phrases like that, even if you’re for the guy/gal. Maybe a new word is in order:

“John McCain: the real chaverick.” (Although that leaves “mange” untaken….)

]]> By: Ivan Wolfe http://www.millennialstar.org/all-i-ask-is-that-the-candidates-court-me-until-the-bitter-end/comment-page-1/#comment-32447 Ivan Wolfe Fri, 03 Oct 2008 12:50:04 +0000 http://www.millennialstar.org/2008/09/30/all-i-ask-is-that-the-candidates-court-me-until-the-bitter-end/#comment-32447 After the debate, I'm okay with Palin as a VP pick (Biden did well as well, but he's clearly had a lot more practice and I never questioned him as a VP pick). Palin showed she can hold her own. Whether she would be a good choice to be a "heartbeat away" or not is another matter, and I'm not sold on that (Give her another few years as Governor and maybe then). However, after last night's debate, I am now thoroughly sick of the words "Maverick" and "Change." After the debate, I’m okay with Palin as a VP pick (Biden did well as well, but he’s clearly had a lot more practice and I never questioned him as a VP pick).

Palin showed she can hold her own. Whether she would be a good choice to be a “heartbeat away” or not is another matter, and I’m not sold on that (Give her another few years as Governor and maybe then).

However, after last night’s debate, I am now thoroughly sick of the words “Maverick” and “Change.”

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